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Energy Spark
Episode 1:
"What Drives the Energy Transition?"
Hosts: Zia-Melchior Hoseini, Gijs Tuijtel and Monne Mensink
Guests: Prof. dr. Arthur Mol (Professor of Environmental Policy, Wageningen University & Research)
Dr. Mark Boneschanscher (Managing Director, EIRES)
The inaugural episode of the EnergySpark Podcast sets the stage for an ongoing conversation about energy, innovation, and policy. Hosted by Zia-Melchior and Gijs, this first edition opens with reflections on the importance of multidisciplinary research in accelerating the energy transition. The episode begins with a compelling contribution from Prof. Arthur Mol, former Rector Magnificus of Wageningen University, who underscores the unique position of the 4TU.Federation in ensuring the energy transition is both technological and socially just. He emphasizes that universities must not only innovate but also ensure the new energy technologies become available for all groups in society.
The episode is followed by a deep and insightful conversation with Dr. Mark Boneschanscher, who discusses the evolving identity of EIRES (Eindhoven Institute for Renewable Energy Systems), his personal journey from material sciences to science policy, and the broader landscape of academic contributions to clean energy futures. Dr. Boneschanscher articulates the dual tension in academic institutions: the freedom to explore and the obligation to contribute. He argues for future-facing research agendas that “ask questions about the world 15 to 20 years from now” to drive sustainable breakthroughs today.
“The real science questions are: how do we make energy devices circular? How do we recycle solar panels and wind turbines at scale?”
The conversation touches on policy inconsistency in the Netherlands, particularly referencing heat pump rollout reversals. Mark stresses the damage caused by erratic governance and advocates for stability and foresight.
“...Make a policy and then stand by it for a number of years.
Don’t change it overnight.”
Mark elaborates on the importance of T-shaped professionals—individuals with deep disciplinary expertise but also a broad capacity to collaborate across sectors like engineering, policy, and economics.
While praising rapid deployment of solar and battery tech, he warns of blind spots in material sourcing and recyclability. A just transition requires designing with circularity and fairness in mind. Mark ends on commending student-led initiatives like Team Energy for shaping a future built on informed, ethical, and inclusive action.

“We need to move from excellence-based funding to mission-driven, interdisciplinary funding focused on societal impact.”
Dr. Mark Boneschanscher
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